Monday, 31 October 2011

Mortice and Tenon joints found 600 years before Stonehenge's Lintels

By Robert John Langdon

Early Neolithic Well of Altscherbitz dated at 5101 BC.

One of the corners of the base-frame of the well held together by a keyed mortise and tenon joint

This well was found during construction work on the airport of Leipzig/Halle, which is about 600 miles (3 x further than the bluestones that came from Wales) from Stonehenge where similar features were carved into the lintels of the monument.

Clearly this is the influence and techniques used to build Stonehenge some 600 years later according to my hypothesis in 4500BC (2000 years according to 'traditional' archaeological estimations) and the 'Solent Boat' which was dated 800 years before this well was built. (http://robertjohnlangdon.blogspot.com/2011/06/8000-year-old-boat-found-in-solent.html)

"Within the pit a wooden chamber built out of large oak timbers has been constructed in log cabin style with interlocking notches near the corners. All in all, 23 pairs of timbers could be documented, although the upper ones were in a very poor condition. This construction was founded on a quadratic frame fashioned from four heavy oak timbers that were held together by mortise and tenon joints.

This type of joint was already known for the Early Neolithic from the well of ZwenkauEythra (Saxony, Germany), but the tenons in the frame from Altscherbitz are additionally secured by wedges. It is the first time this carpentry technique, the so called keyed tenon joint, has been recorded for the Early Neolithic. The timbers from the construction can be dendrochronologically dated towards the end of the 52nd  century BCE (dendrochronological analysis is still in progress by Willy Tegel, DendroNet). On one piece of wood from the construction pit the last ring under the bark was present and points to the winter of 5102/5101 BCE for the felling of the trees."

Hang on a minute Oak timbers have been constructed in 'Log Cabin Style' techniques - if that is the case why do our archaeologists insist that our ancestors lived in round 'Mud Huts' ?

If you have the carpentry skills to make a log cabin - would you not do so??

If to have the ability to lock 23 pairs of timbers together, could you not also make a wooden boat?

Yet more 'inconvenient' questions archaeology can not answer - fortunately in The Stonehenge Enigma - we do!!

RJL

(by Robert John Langdon)



9 comments:

  1. Robert

    I'm confused, your state that 5100 BC is Neolithic?

    Surely it's Mesolithic?

    Dr Stuart Love

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  2. Stuart

    You are right, but as in most archaeology you are wrong as well ;-)

    If this artefact was found in Britain it would be Mesolithic - but as this was found in 'Middle Europe' it is Neolithic!

    Arachaeology created the most absurd and confusing dating system ever made at the end of the 19th century and dated areas by the finds rather than a date - so in theory some tribes in Africa are still in the Neolithic Period although 2-3 hundred miles down the road their are people living in the 21st century - totally ridiculous and unhelpful.

    Suggest you ignore the classification and just concentrate on the dates to understand the true dateline.

    RJL

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  3. Aaah! Robert! Still the sophist!

    The date of the wood tells us nothing about the date of its use! If we take this timber now and use it in a boat, does it make the boat 5000 years old?

    Those needing to believe will see this 'pegged joint' as a 'little miracle'!

    Kostas

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  4. Kostas

    If it was the only evidence of Mortice and Tenon joints you could have a point.

    But when you see this 'well' and then the boat in the Solent and Stonehenge lintel joints - far too many consequences in just 6 months of research - yes we have only been looking for 6 months, in 10 years time (as i'm in no rush) we will probably be looking at over 60 examples of Mesolithic M&T joints.

    Lets hope by then the British Archaeologists let my ancestors sleep in log cabins instead of mud huts!!

    RJL

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  5. Robert,

    Reaching the same conclusion repeating the same flawed logic does not make the conclusion any more true!

    Kostas

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  6. Kostas

    you will find this blog site:
    http://constantincretan.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/the-cro-magnon-man-was-more-intelligent-than-present-man-ii/

    Interesting, as it blows a part your beliefs about our modern 'civilisation' and its technological culture. It will also give you background information to develop a true premise to your future arguments.

    RJL

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  7. Robert,

    I find ants more “intelligent” than people! Depending on how we wish to define “intelligence”.

    For me, “intelligence” is not the question. And I don't define it in any way. Its “cultural development” that we need to be considering.

    It's not in the “gene pool” Robert! It's in the culture that binds people together to be “more than themselves”. None of what we know as “leaps forward” were done by “individuals in isolation”.

    But here is the rub to your arguments. Advanced civilization leave ample evidence behind of their existence! We just cannot “make them up” by “imagining” them.

    The article in the link in your post reminds me of a lecture at Princeton I once heard many years ago by a renowned philosopher (I have forgotten his name!). The title of the lecture was “Why I Don't Exist”. I remember the title vividly. As I remember thinking how sad that an “intelligent” man should use his intelligence to deny his existence! This happens when our reason becomes detached from our senses! And that happens when we value our symbols and idols more than our humanity.

    Kostas

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  8. Kostas

    Yes I remember a similar lecture in metaphysics in UCL two years ago - the professor was attempting to take us beyond the 'norm' and break our 'preconception' of life, so we could become truely 'balanced' philosophers without bias - it worked for me.

    Intelligence is simple its IQ and we have the capacity to rate it today. Mesolithic man (so called primitive man for the unenlightened) was more intelligent than 'Modern man'.

    A proof is if we swooped you and a cro-magnon man in a time machine - you would die within a short period of time due to either starvation or hyperthermia while cro-magnon man or Homo Superior (as I have nicknamed him in the forthcoming book) would not only survive but prosper.

    The 'culture test' is subjective, is writing a sign of sophistication or a bad memory?

    As again I show in the book Homo Superior worked two and a half days a week to maintain his food supply for himself and his family - when the so called Neolithic farming cultural revolution happened, they had to work 7 days a week 365 days a year.

    So tell me Kostas, who has the superior culture?

    RJL

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  9. Robert,

    Hard to argue Stonehenge with hard facts! Bring in philosophy and questions of meaning and we'd get nowhere for sure! The makings of good 'cults' … hey Robert?

    Kostas

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